zuper: :)
womanonfire: allo
zuper: just uploading new skinonskinonskin
womanonfire: really
zuper: yes
womanonfire: ...
zuper: it's Saturday night here
womanonfire: saturday nite here too
womanonfire: i am going out later
zuper: hip
womanonfire: taking fakeshop to a party
zuper: is fakeshop in NY as well?
womanonfire: yes in briiklyn
womanonfire: oops
womanonfire: Brooklyn
womanonfire: if u were h id take u too
womanonfire: here
womanonfire: cant type tonite
womanonfire: URL
zuper: I'm bad at parties
womanonfire: parties Zuck
womanonfire: but i have to get out sometime
zuper: why?
womanonfire: all work and no play make womanonfire tense
zuper: I like tense
womanonfire: tense can be good but good to slip out of too
zuper: yes, it's there: skinonskinonskin/close.html
womanonfire: yes ok
zuper: I've made an index too (put the heart beat in a navi frame)
zuper: and connected smoke to breath
womanonfire: beautiful...
zuper: one does what one can (with ones heart)
womanonfire: indeed
zuper: I had a lot of fun in Photoshop recomposing uour image
womanonfire: scary thought
zuper: :)
womanonfire: i had fun making that image
womanonfire: and what i will make next...
zuper: It reminded me of one I made years ago
womanonfire: mmm
zuper: I sat on the scanner
zuper: naked
zuper: funny image
womanonfire: !
zuper: put it up on FFF and Jef was angry with me...
womanonfire: i wonder why
womanonfire: ;-)
zuper: If only scanners could be connected through the network: I'd lie on mine here and you could lie on  yours there...
zuper: i want to feel you
womanonfire: what a wondeful idea
womanonfire: there would still be no feel only image
womanonfire: feel is in our minds
zuper: I want a feel scanner
womanonfire: yesssss
zuper: btw what are the 272 excessive jpegs in your smoke folder?
womanonfire: a mistake
zuper: i liked it :)
womanonfire: i will fix
womanonfire: i was being illusive
zuper: I have downloaded all of them
womanonfire: mmmmmmm
womanonfire: oh good you're stills 
womanonfire: sitting stills
zuper: yeah and then I blurred it for Jef's piece of mind
zuper: it was at the time of the CDA
womanonfire: right
womanonfire: CDA?
zuper: communications decency act?
womanonfire: right
zuper: you know those fascist americans
womanonfire: all too well
zuper: :(
zuper: I'm coming to San Fransisco on March 18
womanonfire: no WAY
womanonfire: i will be in SF then TOO
zuper: NO WAY!!
womanonfire: for the webbys right
zuper: for the webbies yes
zuper: are you nominated as well?
womanonfire: i won it the last two years
womanonfire: not nomintated now
womanonfire: i was going to be in sf
womanonfire: for another reason
womanonfire: but it was two days after the webbys
zuper: then I can touch you...
womanonfire: so i decided to come early
womanonfire: maybe
womanonfire: ........
zuper: I will be there from 16 to 20, I think
womanonfire: probably
zuper: if I'm not too shy
womanonfire: i will be there from 18-21
zuper: great, then we can give our skins a chance to meet
womanonfire: perhaps
zuper: yes, perhaps
womanonfire: definitly our eyes will
zuper: yes
womanonfire: definitly our minds will
womanonfire: definitly 
zuper: and then we'll be totally disgusted by each other
zuper: ;)
womanonfire: i hope not
zuper: me neither
zuper: I'm always afraid to meet someone I know and like from the net in the flesh
womanonfire: at least an opportunity to consider it
womanonfire: im never afraid
zuper: I don't want to be disappointed
womanonfire: just VERY curious
zuper: on he other hand...
zuper: I fell in love once before via e-mail
womanonfire: really, did it work out in person
zuper: I'm afraid it did...
womanonfire: oh
womanonfire: still...
zuper: still?
womanonfire: in love
zuper: no
zuper: I broke it up because I was hurting my girlfriend
zuper: I have two kids, you know...
womanonfire: yes i know
womanonfire: i have no kids
womanonfire: but a boyfriend
womanonfire: and two cats
zuper: Do you want kids?
womanonfire: i dont know yet
zuper: How old are you?
womanonfire: im only 27 lots of time to decide
zuper: yep
womanonfire: too busy
womanonfire: moving
womanonfire: around
womanonfire: being happy
womanonfire: independent
womanonfire: selfish
zuper: you shouldn't have kids if you enjoy your indepency
womanonfire: how old are you?
zuper: 30
womanonfire: everyone in hell is around this age it seems
zuper: Jef, Ken and Guy are in their 40s, I thought
womanonfire: oh maybe
zuper: You might very well be the youngest
womanonfire: ?!
zuper: except for antiorp?
womanonfire: right, shes 13
womanonfire: :-)
zuper: :)
womanonfire: i hope our flesh will meet
womanonfire: i feel that i have touched you already
zuper: (private) me too
zuper: those butterflies are inside of me
womanonfire: i love your work
womanonfire: i always have
zuper: does my work has anything to do with needs of your flesh?
zuper: (private) ;)
womanonfire: it is a connection that is all
zuper: I hate my work sometimes
zuper: i would like it to evoke the emotions i am feeling right now
womanonfire: all must feel that way sometimes
zuper: are you aware of that camera all the time?
womanonfire: no just when chatting
womanonfire: well... sometimes
zuper: I've been peeping one in a while today and yesterday on your website
womanonfire: i just use it to remind me that there are people out there
womanonfire: a world
womanonfire: and to remind them that i am here
womanonfire: not to forget
zuper: i just caught myself kissing my monitor
womanonfire: sweetness
zuper: your eyes
zuper: and eyelids
zuper: at 3.4 fps
zuper: doesn't it feel absolutely akward to know that I am looking at you?
womanonfire: yes a virtual feel would be ideal wouldnt it
zuper: I want to put my hand on the screen and touch yours
womanonfire: nothing makes me feel awkward espescially knowing that i am being watched
womanonfire: i like being watched
zuper: do you watch yourself?
zuper: (I would, all the time, to see how my image looks...)
zuper: horrible
womanonfire: yes but that cant be helped
womanonfire: all is vanity
womanonfire: but i dont consider it vanity
womanonfire: to try and look into your own eyes
womanonfire: and try to see
womanonfire: what is there
zuper: a romantic would say that you can only see that in the eyes of someone else
womanonfire: i am not a romantic
womanonfire: too many people
womanonfire: in ones life
womanonfire: why be reflected
womanonfire: just BE
womanonfire: is that awful though
zuper: things only exists when they are perceived
zuper: when you don't look at something, it disappears
womanonfire: ones own perception is just as valid
womanonfire: but maybe i have been hurt too much
womanonfire: made too jaded
womanonfire: to trust
womanonfire: what i may see 
womanonfire: in someone elses eyes
zuper: are you pretty?
womanonfire: is this a trick
womanonfire: ?
zuper: no, I can't tell from the video image
womanonfire: i can clear it up if it matters
zuper: no, it doesn't matter
womanonfire: do you want me too?
womanonfire: i will if you ask
zuper: i would love you if you looked like a dinosaur
womanonfire: sweetness2
zuper: it's weird
womanonfire: i keep it blurry 
zuper: I know I am very sensitive to female beauty
womanonfire: the cam is not about reality
zuper: but on the net there seems to be another kind of beauty I am sensitive to
womanonfire: mmmmmmmmmm
zuper: i don't know
zuper: it's probably because i let go mare easily if I'm alone behind a keyboard
zuper: i have nothing to lose
womanonfire: looks never matter to me 
womanonfire: only minds
womanonfire: you surprised me
zuper: then you'll be disappointed to hear that i am ever so handsome
womanonfire: i had never let go behind a keyboard
zuper: why did i surprise you?
womanonfire: you seduced me
zuper: _i_ seduced _you_?
womanonfire: yes !
zuper: i'm flattered :8)
womanonfire: virginity lost
zuper: mine too
womanonfire: net.sex.virginity
womanonfire: ive always made a point of not giving in to it 
womanonfire: in text
zuper: why?
womanonfire: because it feels too good
womanonfire: scary
womanonfire: a scary intensity
zuper: (private) You shouldn't think I do this all the time. In fact I had never done it in real time before.
zuper: yes
womanonfire -> zuper: i wasnt thinking that
zuper: why does it scare _you_?
womanonfire: not sure
zuper: (private) i love your mind
zuper: _i_ feel like I'm cheating on on my girlfriend
zuper: weird
womanonfire: makes you want things you cannot have
zuper: i didn't do anything but type
womanonfire: right i felt the same way
zuper: I'm glad you did
zuper: somehow
zuper: (private) i was wondering the other day whether you were faking it
womanonfire: just touching the keys feels different
womanonfire: like it is directly
womanonfire: typing
womanonfire: into you
womanonfire: onto your flesh
zuper: o yes my body is a keyboard :)
womanonfire: the heat from the machine
zuper: is it hot there?
zuper: I'm trembling
womanonfire: where i type it is very warm
zuper: o god
zuper: i am so strangely excited about this contact with you
womanonfire: exciting for me too
zuper: who is that in the background? (not your boyfriend, I hope... :} )
womanonfire: i do not know what to think
womanonfire: so i will not think
womanonfire: no
zuper: me neither
zuper: me neither
zuper: I'm afraid that it will stop and I'm afraid that it will never stop.
womanonfire: see....   scary
zuper: yes
womanonfire: i thought of you all night
zuper: you did not!?
zuper: did you?
zuper: help
womanonfire: yes i did
womanonfire: wishing there was really a way
zuper: i having been walking around like a zombie here
womanonfire: to sleep together in the network
womanonfire: that is what i want
womanonfire: reality has a way of
zuper: sleep together in the network... (maybe we should ask William Gibson how ;) )
womanonfire: :-)
zuper: reality has a way of?
womanonfire: taking out the beauty of distance
womanonfire: i like this
womanonfire: no decisions
womanonfire: no harm
zuper: no touching
womanonfire: but it makes me want more
zuper: yes
zuper: it's very strange, cause in reality touching doesn't seem such a big deal
zuper: I don't even like sex that much a lot of the time
womanonfire: really
zuper: well
zuper: ...
womanonfire: im afraid i like it alot
womanonfire: ...
womanonfire: touching is not what is a big deal
zuper: I like making love for hours and hours while you have to go to the bathroom urgently but you refuse to go and the next day your bowels are a complete mess
zuper: i like that pain
womanonfire: i know what you mean... i think
zuper: so what is the big deal if not touching?
womanonfire: emotions
zuper: ...
zuper: yes
zuper: ...
zuper: [sad smile]
womanonfire: i like making love for hours and hours until the world disappears
zuper: me too
womanonfire: but it always comes back
zuper: (private) My girlfriend likes quickies... :(
zuper: maybe if you die while making love, the world doesn't come back and you can stay in that precious zone forever
womanonfire -> zuper: poor baby
zuper: (private) kiss me
zuper: (private) ooooooooooh
zuper: (private) 
zuper: (private) 
zuper: 
womanonfire -> zuper: i will kiss you
zuper: 
womanonfire -> zuper: when we meet at last
zuper: (private) I'm amazed by my physical responses to this virtual fact
womanonfire -> zuper: that is what surprised me on our first night together
womanonfire -> zuper: i am
zuper: (private) When we meet we should not say anything and just start kissing and never stop
womanonfire -> zuper: burning
zuper: (private) me too
womanonfire -> zuper: meet me at my hotel
zuper: (private) :)
womanonfire -> zuper: it will be dark
zuper: (private) is dark good?
womanonfire -> zuper: we shall not even see each other
womanonfire -> zuper: only feel
zuper: (private) and then in the morning when the sun comes u... :D
zuper: (private) AAAAAAARRRGGGHHHH!!! DID I SLEEP WITH THAT???
zuper: (private) ;)
womanonfire: ok so maybe not complete darkness
zuper: ok
womanonfire: :-)
womanonfire: justa 
womanonfire: 
womanonfire: just a concept
zuper: you seem to laughing as hard as i am
womanonfire: yes
zuper: somehow this fragment of reality that we use on the net is more real
zuper: in a way
zuper: more intense
womanonfire: in a way
womanonfire: which shows
womanonfire: that to make something real
womanonfire: you need only believe in it
zuper: do you think we are stimulated by our own imagination more than by the other person?
zuper: i desperately need a cigarette
zuper: i'll be back...
womanonfire: have a cig
zuper: I'm back. Breathing heavily. No I have to roll one. It takes some time.
womanonfire: perhaps imagination more
womanonfire: perhaps words from another
zuper: do you know what i look like?
womanonfire: yes
zuper: how,
womanonfire: saw pics on your site
womanonfire: there are alot of pics of me on my site
zuper: so that's on step further away from possible future disappointment :)
zuper: I don't know your site that well.
womanonfire: but one must see me in real time to get the full effect
zuper: (private) But you can bet I will spend hours and hours on it from now on... :)
zuper: what full effect? :}
womanonfire -> zuper: crashing is part of the experience
zuper: (private) welcome to the club
zuper: (private) if a site crashes on me, it stimulates me
zuper: (private) in fact, i only like sites that crash
zuper: (private) if it doesn't crash, it means people didn't take risks
zuper: (private) i even crashed netscape 1.1 back in the old days :)
zuper: (private) I'm still wondering how I did that... :)
womanonfire -> zuper: :-)
womanonfire: full effect----> i am tall and thin
womanonfire: ----> i have green dread locks
zuper: (private) how tall?
zuper: (private) GREEN??
womanonfire: ----->not too bright
womanonfire: but green nonetheless
zuper: (private) no wonder you have a black and white camera
zuper: (private) ;)
womanonfire: i like them that way
zuper: (private) I'm sure i will too.
zuper: How's business btw?
womanonfire -> zuper: let us dispell all myths
womanonfire -> zuper: about 5ft 9in. tall
zuper: (private) grabbing for my dictionary again...
zuper: (private) what's 5 ft 9 inch in meters?
zuper: (private) "dispel" only has one l
zuper: (private) ;)
womanonfire -> zuper: just a second i am american-- i think its 1.6 meters 
womanonfire: not known for my good spelling or grammar
zuper: (private) i'm a little over 1.7, i think, so i won't be dwarfed by you too much
zuper: (private) :)
womanonfire -> zuper: good
zuper: (private) we can always lie down
zuper: (private) or fly
womanonfire -> zuper: that would solve the problem nicely
zuper: (private) what problem? ;p
womanonfire -> zuper: height... gravity... lack of sensation
zuper: (private) Il n'y a pas de solution parce qu'il n'y a pas de probleme.
zuper: (private) I wish
womanonfire -> zuper: i wish
womanonfire: i have to go 
womanonfire: is it late there?
zuper: (private) you're 1 meter 72 (i looked it up)
zuper: (private) it's 1.35 AM
womanonfire: it is 7:35 here
womanonfire: pm
zuper: (private) The whole evening in front of you!
zuper: For partying!!!
womanonfire -> zuper: yes
womanonfire -> zuper: YES!!
womanonfire -> zuper: real time drunkeness
zuper: think of me when you're on the dancefloor
zuper: think of me when your pouring liquids into your mouth
womanonfire -> zuper: i will not be able to stop
womanonfire -> zuper: thinking
womanonfire -> zuper: of
womanonfire -> zuper:  you
zuper: if there is a hell, this is it
zuper: ;)
zuper: sweet hell
womanonfire: sweet hell
womanonfire: let us talk again sometime soon
womanonfire: keep trying to touch
zuper: (private) I have your scan on the other computer: now I have two images of you
zuper: yes
zuper: yes
zuper: i should go to be
zuper: visiting my parents tomorrow...
womanonfire -> zuper: i want more of you now
zuper: and my grandparents
zuper: and my brother and his wife...
zuper: :(
womanonfire -> zuper: more
zuper: (private) maybe there is no more
womanonfire -> zuper: again  scary
zuper: (private) maybe you won't like my flesh
zuper: (private) my skin is almost white
zuper: (private) i have hair on my legs
zuper: (private) and almost none on my chest
zuper: (private) but my head is a nice thing to touch
womanonfire -> zuper: maybe but until we know
womanonfire -> zuper: there is always this
zuper: (private) this addictive...
zuper: (private) thing
womanonfire -> zuper: and it is beautiful
zuper: (private) ... yes
womanonfire -> zuper: good night
zuper: (private) good night my dear
zuper: (private) I'm so glad that you feel the same way I do
zuper: (private) I kiss your hand