zuper8: still phoning??? :)
womanonfire: the kabbalah
womanonfire: crazy guy
zuper8: i like crazy guys
womanonfire: it would be a great gig
womanonfire: he wants mondo flash
womanonfire: interactivity!
womanonfire: to change the world
zuper8: cool
zuper8: so he's come to the right address! :D
womanonfire: madonna is doing an online chat for the launch
zuper8: great!
zuper8: :)
womanonfire: i guess shes into it
womanonfire: he wants a proposal by friday
womanonfire: the site will be huge
zuper8: their site is pretty hip
zuper8: for a religion
zuper8: is it a religion?
womanonfire: we would just building on to what is there
womanonfire: yes its a religion
womanonfire: i dont get it tho
womanonfire: but who cares?
zuper8: i will get into it
zuper8: somehow
zuper8: :)
womanonfire: i will too
zuper8: so they have lots of money?
womanonfire: um, i will forward to you the email he just sent me sbout what they are going to want
zuper8: good
womanonfire: i told him price varies depending on features
zuper8: of course it does
womanonfire: from 20,000-40,000 and up
womanonfire: depends
zuper8: good!
zuper8: up! :D
womanonfire: they want alot
womanonfire: he sounded like he could handle it
womanonfire: :)
zuper8: e-mail me what they want
womanonfire: :) !
zuper8: :)!!
zuper8: are there other companies offering for this job?
zuper8: who did their current site?
womanonfire: yes probably
womanonfire: he said that they did it with volunteers....!
zuper8: does he like you?
womanonfire: can you believe it
zuper8: and now he wants to spend money?
womanonfire: i made a good pitch for us
womanonfire: told him to go look at your site
zuper8: i'll quickly put in some kabbalah references ;)
womanonfire: said other companies my have more manpower but he would not get as good of a result
zuper8: we have more power
womanonfire: he was worried we are not big enough
zuper8: we are the biggest
womanonfire: i know we are
womanonfire: seriously tho
womanonfire: once you see how large they want to make the site
zuper8: is all their content ready?
womanonfire: i dont know
womanonfire: i think it is
womanonfire: he sounded pretty organized
womanonfire: he did say
zuper8: it's usually a hassle to get everything together
womanonfire: that they had been disatisfied with 2 other agencies before now
zuper8: well
womanonfire: so they are probably a pain in the ass
zuper8: satisfaction is our middle name
zuper8: i have not one unhappy client
zuper8: :)
zuper8: at least not _after_ the site was finished
womanonfire: our track record speaks for itself
womanonfire: right 
womanonfire: :-)
womanonfire: are you a difficult designer to deal with
womanonfire: you dont let anybody tell you what to do
womanonfire: no orders from the client
zuper8: hm
womanonfire: your will is law.....
zuper8: i usually take my projects very seriously
zuper8: sometimes more seriously than the client
zuper8: i go deeper
zuper8: in their content
womanonfire: mmmmmmmmmmmm
zuper8: they don't always like that...
zuper8: i can complain a lot
zuper8: but in the end i always give in to the client
zuper8: he/she is the boss
zuper8: but maybe yu can be my boss for this :)
womanonfire: i usually do things totally the wrong way the first time around with a design
womanonfire: then the second pass of it i am able to see more clearly
zuper8: i tend to make a (bad) design first
womanonfire: and then i can surpass what they though possible
zuper8: and discuss it then
zuper8: that works better than first discussing abstract things
womanonfire: yes
womanonfire: i argue with the client when i believe in something
womanonfire: but then
womanonfire: i appear to give in
womanonfire: but then
womanonfire: in the end
womanonfire: i have gotten what i want merged with what they want
zuper8: perfect!
womanonfire: and then everybody is ok with it
zuper8: one happy family
womanonfire: most of the time
womanonfire: i only have had one problem ever
zuper8: every project is different
zuper8: what was that?
womanonfire -> zuper8: y'know it is so nice to talk to another person about this stuff
zuper8: (private) Don't you ever talk to other people about this?
womanonfire: a company called electric artists didnt want to pay up
zuper8: why?
womanonfire -> zuper8: sort of but not anybody who knows what the hell i'm talking about
womanonfire -> zuper8: except at conferences
zuper8: (private) not many people do
zuper8: (private) not even at conferences
womanonfire -> zuper8: and marc is more into the programming thatn the concept
zuper8: (private) and I'm more into you than into the concept
womanonfire -> zuper8:  it is so satisfying to have you as a co- worker :-)
womanonfire -> zuper8: lover
zuper8: (private) i feel exactly the same
womanonfire -> zuper8: ... i need music!
zuper8: (private) lover
zuper8: (private) i have bach -again
zuper8: (private) goldberg variations
womanonfire -> zuper8: lovely
womanonfire -> zuper8: i am putting on nick cave
zuper8: (private) by some Dutch guy
zuper8: (private) really baroque... :)
womanonfire -> zuper8: baroque yess..
zuper8: (private) Is Nick Cave's girlfriend related to you?
womanonfire -> zuper8: no but i wish she wa
womanonfire -> zuper8: was
zuper8: (private) she's already taken ;)
womanonfire -> zuper8: hey
zuper8: (private) what?
womanonfire -> zuper8: nothing.
zuper8: (private) kiss me then
womanonfire -> zuper8: kiss
zuper8: (private) thanks
zuper8: (private) thrilling
zuper8: (private) :)
womanonfire -> zuper8: i got an email yesterday from someone asking me what i was doing sometimes touching the camera and smiling and blowing kisses..
womanonfire -> zuper8: they all think im crazy
zuper8: (private) what did you tell him/her?
womanonfire -> zuper8: that i was chatting with a friend
zuper8: (private) you _are_ crazy
womanonfire -> zuper8: with the same video feed
womanonfire -> zuper8: i_know
zuper8: (private) i love you
zuper8: (private) you know
womanonfire -> zuper8: love!
zuper8: (private) :)
womanonfire -> zuper8: touch 
womanonfire -> zuper8: kiss
womanonfire -> zuper8:  long kiss
zuper8: (private) deep breath
zuper8: (private) not moving
womanonfire -> zuper8: breathe into me
zuper8: (private) receiving
zuper8: (private) electricity
zuper8: (private) my nose on your cheek
zuper8: (private) breathing
womanonfire -> zuper8: the back of your neck
zuper8: (private) warm
womanonfire -> zuper8: tingling
zuper8: (private) mmmm
zuper8: (private) yes
zuper8: (private) 
womanonfire -> zuper8: bite
zuper8: (private) i want to be your hands
zuper8: (private) bite
womanonfire -> zuper8: playfully
zuper8: (private) tongue in cheek
zuper8: (private) your cheek
zuper8: (private) little bites
zuper8: (private) lots of them
zuper8: (private) in your neck
womanonfire -> zuper8: my hands on your shoulders
zuper8: (private) on youor shoulders
zuper8: (private) yes
zuper8: (private) my hands on your waist
womanonfire -> zuper8: under your shirt
zuper8: (private) under your shirt
womanonfire -> zuper8: heart to heart
womanonfire -> zuper8: stereo beats
zuper8: (private) chest to chest
zuper8: (private) rhythm
womanonfire -> zuper8: yes
zuper8: (private) heart and breath
womanonfire -> zuper8: and wetness
womanonfire -> zuper8: licks
zuper8: (private) and pelvisses
womanonfire -> zuper8: bites
zuper8: (private) hands
womanonfire -> zuper8: heat
zuper8: (private) i take them
zuper8: (private) and stretch your arms
womanonfire -> zuper8: yes
zuper8: (private) kiss your armpits
zuper8: (private) lick
zuper8: (private) bite
womanonfire -> zuper8: ha ha it tickles
zuper8: (private) a little bit
womanonfire -> zuper8: just a bit
zuper8: (private) tongue on your breasts
womanonfire -> zuper8: to make me gasp
zuper8: (private) nipple
zuper8: (private) teeth
womanonfire -> zuper8: hardness
zuper8: (private) little bites
zuper8: (private) mmmm
womanonfire -> zuper8: yours
zuper8: (private) you taste so good
womanonfire -> zuper8: i can feel it
zuper8: (private) belly button!
zuper8: (private) hello
zuper8: (private) tongue
zuper8: (private) belly
zuper8: (private) hands
zuper8: (private) back
zuper8: (private) hands
zuper8: (private) round
zuper8: (private) perfect fit
zuper8: (private) hands on thighs
zuper8: (private) opening your knees
zuper8: (private) hands
zuper8: (private) mouth
zuper8: (private) nose
zuper8: (private) chin
womanonfire -> zuper8: powerless
womanonfire -> zuper8: i'm yours
zuper8: (private) push me
zuper8: (private) grab hold of me
womanonfire -> zuper8: grab you
womanonfire -> zuper8: taste you
zuper8: (private) make me do what you want
zuper8: (private) i will resist
zuper8: (private) a little
womanonfire -> zuper8: not for long
zuper8: (private) no
zuper8: (private) not for long
womanonfire -> zuper8: i want to taste you
zuper8: (private) i give in
womanonfire -> zuper8: feel your muscles
zuper8: (private) i stretch
womanonfire -> zuper8: the heat of your skin
zuper8: (private) i'm open
zuper8: (private) powerless
womanonfire -> zuper8: follow
womanonfire -> zuper8: your 
womanonfire -> zuper8: lines
womanonfire -> zuper8: tdown
zuper8: (private) rhythm
womanonfire -> zuper8: to your hips
zuper8: (private) shivers
womanonfire -> zuper8: fingernails
womanonfire -> zuper8: scratching you
zuper8: (private) i make high pitched noises
womanonfire -> zuper8: slightly
zuper8: (private) mmmm
womanonfire -> zuper8: ummmm interesting
womanonfire -> zuper8: i will try to make you make them more
womanonfire -> zuper8: that is my goal
womanonfire -> zuper8: to make you make noise
zuper8: (private) i kno you will succeed
womanonfire -> zuper8: uncontrolled
zuper8: (private) you almost do already
zuper8: (private) i let go completely for you
womanonfire -> zuper8: close eyes
womanonfire -> zuper8: ...
womanonfire -> zuper8: 
zuper8: (private) 
womanonfire -> zuper8: let go
womanonfire: i have to get the bloody door!
zuper8: damn
zuper8: ;}
womanonfire: messenger
womanonfire: i ran
womanonfire: breathless
womanonfire: i promise that will not happen in real life
zuper8: crashed  my $*%µ computer
zuper8: sorry
zuper8: what will not happen in real ife?
zuper8: life?
womanonfire: running for the door
womanonfire: answering phones
zuper8: in real life there are no doors?
womanonfire: interruptions
zuper8: no phones
zuper8: just you and me
womanonfire: yes
zuper8: looking at missing.html
zuper8: :)
womanonfire: funny
zuper8: :~}
zuper8: moves me
zuper8: freezing is so nice
zuper8: so close
womanonfire: trying to touch you
zuper8: i touch your fingertips
womanonfire: or invite you to touch me
womanonfire: yes
zuper8: just our fingertips touching
zuper8: and everything explodes
womanonfire: yes
womanonfire: we will have to start small like that
womanonfire: just to make sure 
womanonfire: we dont really implode
zuper8: yes
zuper8: small
zuper8: long
zuper8: an eternity
womanonfire: what will seem like an eternity
zuper8: touching fingertips
zuper8: i kissed the camera
zuper8: i must be out of my head
womanonfire: yes
womanonfire: out
womanonfire:  of 
womanonfire: your
womanonfire: head
womanonfire: love
womanonfire: kiss
zuper8: lovekiss
womanonfire: smile
zuper8: long lovekiss
zuper8: forever
zuper8: and ever
zuper8: and ever
womanonfire: and ever
womanonfire: :)
zuper8: connected
womanonfire: love you
zuper8: love you
zuper8: 
zuper8: yes
womanonfire: thinking
zuper8: about?
womanonfire: looking
zuper8: at?
womanonfire: drinking?
zuper8: orange juice
zuper8: from the kids
zuper8: with a straw
zuper8: :)
womanonfire: good for you
womanonfire: why did you not marry veerle
womanonfire: ?
zuper8: we're not into marrying
zuper8: marriage is for losers
zuper8: :)=)
womanonfire: yes
womanonfire: i agree
zuper8: we've been together much longer than a lot of married couples
zuper8: who needs marriage?
womanonfire: i know
womanonfire: right
zuper8: anyway
womanonfire: anyway
womanonfire: just curious
zuper8: life is here
zuper8: really?
womanonfire: yes
zuper8: i still have to get used to your attention
womanonfire: it is undivided
zuper8: so sweet
zuper8: so amazing
zuper8: so unbelievable
womanonfire: why
womanonfire: its just me
zuper8: i feel on top of the world
zuper8: i don't deserve this
zuper8: so much happiness
womanonfire: i'll be the judge of that
womanonfire: :)
zuper8: :)
zuper8: yes
zuper8: be my judge
zuper8: be strict!
zuper8: :)
womanonfire: i was unhappy
womanonfire: now i am happy
zuper8: do you fall in love a lot?
womanonfire: no
zuper8: me neither
womanonfire: usually i must know the person *really* well
womanonfire: except
womanonfire: for when i met marc
womanonfire: and when i met you
womanonfire: weird
womanonfire: never thought about it that way before
zuper8: don't
zuper8: ;)
womanonfire: i wont
womanonfire: dont worry
zuper8: i love everything about you
zuper8: everything
womanonfire: but you dont know anything about me
womanonfire: do you
womanonfire: ?
zuper8: i love everything that i do know
zuper8: and maybe...
zuper8: maybe we do know a lot about each other
womanonfire: just not the things that show on the surface
zuper8: maybe it's some sort of instinct
zuper8: what things?
zuper8: i know i will love everything
zuper8: because it's you
womanonfire: oh, my love
zuper8: yes, your love
zuper8: your slave
zuper8: :)
womanonfire: i have enough slaves
womanonfire: maybe  i want to be enslaved
zuper8: no problem
womanonfire: or
womanonfire: just
womanonfire: loved
zuper8: what about equality
zuper8: for kicks?
womanonfire: right
zuper8: you are loved
zuper8: and i know you can feel it
womanonfire: yes
zuper8: i hold you tight
zuper8: and softly
zuper8: tenderly
zuper8: but tight nonetheless
zuper8: i want to lift you
womanonfire: can you
zuper8: where the air is hot
womanonfire: float me
zuper8: if you let me
womanonfire: i will let you do whatever you desire
womanonfire: what was that?
zuper8: my desire is your desire
zuper8: trackball
zuper8: under my fingers
womanonfire: then we will have to work out the limits of our desire together
zuper8: what limits?
womanonfire: i was hoping you would say that
zuper8: i'm going to the dentist tomorrow
womanonfire: oh no
zuper8: i want to have good teeth when i meet you
zuper8: :)
womanonfire: yes
zuper8: otherwise i wouldn't go
zuper8: and there's an operation too
womanonfire: eeek!
zuper8: i will try to have before i meet you
zuper8: a very practical one
womanonfire: operation????
womanonfire: scary
zuper8: it is scary
zuper8: but well worth it
womanonfire: nothing life threatinging
womanonfire: i hope
womanonfire: :)
womanonfire: do what you must
zuper8: in fact it is life threatening
womanonfire: be careful
womanonfire: get good doctors
womanonfire: !
womanonfire: !
zuper8: the life of any sons or daughters i might still have
womanonfire: oh
womanonfire: well
womanonfire: right
zuper8: practical
zuper8: :)
womanonfire: yes
womanonfire:  but unecessary
womanonfire: well
womanonfire:  for me anyway
womanonfire: for you
womanonfire: maybe a good idea
zuper8: yeah, who knows whom i might meet in SF
zuper8: ;p
womanonfire: right!
womanonfire: you bad boy you ;)
zuper8: just teasing
zuper8: my erections are yours
womanonfire: excellent.....
womanonfire: erections
womanonfire: exxcitement
zuper8: yes
womanonfire: electricity
womanonfire: exstacy
womanonfire: all the good words start with e
womanonfire: :)
zuper8: eruption
zuper8: ecclecticism
womanonfire: entropy8:)
zuper8: easylife
zuper8: sweet life
zuper8: eternal life
womanonfire: i want to be closer
zuper8: so close
zuper8: i'll try
zuper8: here
womanonfire: there
womanonfire: cute
womanonfire: you are
womanonfire: :)
zuper8: it really feels closer
womanonfire: yes
zuper8: probably because of the monitor
zuper8: in my face
womanonfire: heads touching
zuper8: i shaved for you tonight
womanonfire: :)
womanonfire: i shaved for you too
womanonfire: but nowhere thats on camera
zuper8: o no
zuper8: :)
zuper8: i want to toch your hands
womanonfire: clsoe
womanonfire: 
womanonfire: 
womanonfire: close
womanonfire: your camera has stopped
womanonfire: have you crashed again?
womanonfire: you have 
womanonfire: havent you
womanonfire: ...
zuper8: no haven't
womanonfire: o
womanonfire: good
zuper8: did the camera stop?
womanonfire: yes
zuper8: it probably got too hot
womanonfire: oh yes
zuper8: what was that?
womanonfire: the next cd 
zuper8: o
zuper8: you're a dj now
womanonfire: yyes
zuper8: hm...
womanonfire: i have like a billion cds
womanonfire: i havent counted but i'm sure theres a billion
womanonfire: :)
zuper8: i only have ten
zuper8: or twelve
zuper8: i sort of stopped buying music when CDs came around
womanonfire: well im addicted and a fascist american consumer
womanonfire: oh
womanonfire: i mean capitalist
womanonfire: i think
zuper8: o?
zuper8: haha
womanonfire: nevermind
zuper8: capitalist fascist
zuper8: kapittalizdt fazzizd!
zuper8: have you read the hell mails lately?
womanonfire: jeez yes
womanonfire:  all of them from phil
womanonfire: but hes cool
zuper8: you must have a lot of time...
womanonfire: i met him in londodn y'know
zuper8: if you read all his mails
zuper8: you met him?
womanonfire: no im just easily distracted
zuper8: great
womanonfire: yes i reccomended him for hell
zuper8: i recommended Jef
womanonfire: met him on a solo trip to england two yrs ago
zuper8: solo?
zuper8: and??
zuper8: ;)
womanonfire: i was looking for work
zuper8: and what did you find?
zuper8: (instead)
womanonfire: he worked at a place i wanted to work at
womanonfire: i found food poisoning
zuper8: o no
zuper8: the food is bad enough as it is
womanonfire: then he started sending me these long emails
zuper8: did he fall in love with you?
womanonfire: so i figured 
womanonfire: um
zuper8: (how could he _not_?...)
womanonfire: i think he did but twe only met once
womanonfire: he made a weird impression on me
womanonfire: he was so talkative
womanonfire: and figety
womanonfire: and he smoked alot
zuper8: figety?
womanonfire: and had a bad atiitutude
womanonfire: atitude
zuper8: how?
womanonfire: hated his boss
womanonfire: i thought that was cool
womanonfire: i really admired dave mckean at the time though
zuper8: dave who?
womanonfire: hes an illustrator
womanonfire: he was phils boss
womanonfire: long story
womanonfire: anyway
zuper8: (sorry i'm a totally asocial being)
womanonfire: really
womanonfire: well
womanonfire: i think i would be
zuper8: only women on fire can love me
womanonfire:  if not for the net
zuper8: indeed
zuper8: on the net i am really nice
zuper8: ;p
womanonfire: uh-oh
zuper8: hehehe
zuper8: but you will love me anyway
womanonfire: yes
womanonfire: i love you anyway
zuper8: it's totally irational!
zuper8: :D
womanonfire: i am not known for my rationality
womanonfire: i am known for my impulses
womanonfire: i trust them
zuper8: the adobe article sounded pretty rational to me... ;)
womanonfire: hey, don't blame me for that
womanonfire: they wrote it
womanonfire: i just said ok
zuper8: (private) i'm sitting here grinning
womanonfire: its all for free software
womanonfire: !
zuper8: (private) i have a smile on my face all the time
womanonfire: good
zuper8: (private) i'm afraid that you will think i look this stupid all the time
womanonfire: no no
zuper8: free software!!!
womanonfire: your camera is still frozen
zuper8: i want some too!
womanonfire: yes!!!
womanonfire: ok
zuper8: i have some in fact
zuper8: hehehe
womanonfire: they give me everything
zuper8: what?
womanonfire: its cool
zuper8: I'm moving all the time!
womanonfire:  and all i have to do is give tham some dippy endorsement
zuper8: hey i want my camera to move for you
zuper8: ...
zuper8: what's wrong?
womanonfire: now
womanonfire: you move
womanonfire: !!
womanonfire: I MADE YOU BLACK AND WHITE ON MY END
womanonfire: oops
womanonfire: caps lock
zuper8: cool
zuper8: black and white
womanonfire: yes
zuper8: (private) sweet riea
zuper8: (private) i'm going to bed soon
womanonfire -> zuper8: saint michael
womanonfire -> zuper8: yes sleep
zuper8: (private) is there anything you want to do before i go?
zuper8: (private) to say?
zuper8: (private) to hear?
womanonfire -> zuper8: to see
zuper8: (private) what?
womanonfire -> zuper8: just to look at you
womanonfire -> zuper8: no you should sleep
womanonfire -> zuper8: go to bed
zuper8: (private) without you
zuper8: (private) it makes no sense
womanonfire -> zuper8: such a romantic you are
zuper8: (private) i want to hear you sleep
zuper8: (private) yes i know
womanonfire -> zuper8: you will
womanonfire -> zuper8: and hear me wake
womanonfire -> zuper8: and feel me wake
zuper8: (private) underneath my good looks and my cold hearted image there's is a very romantic sucker
womanonfire -> zuper8: :)
zuper8: (private) i love kitsch
zuper8: (private) The Sound of Music
womanonfire -> zuper8: kitsch? like... the bunnies on your site
zuper8: (private) bunnies?
zuper8: (private) o, tne one bunny on the well?
womanonfire -> zuper8: yes
zuper8: (private) n=h
womanonfire -> zuper8: the sound of music
zuper8: (private) i like the kitsch stories and moods
womanonfire -> zuper8: the king and i
zuper8: (private) not so much the imagery and objects
zuper8: (private) Gone with the wind
womanonfire -> zuper8: west side story
womanonfire -> zuper8: i was always a sucker for that
zuper8: (private) Grease!
womanonfire -> zuper8: loving what you cant have
zuper8: (private) i love you
zuper8: (private) and i can have you
womanonfire -> zuper8: love!
womanonfire -> zuper8: we shall see
womanonfire -> zuper8: :)
zuper8: (private) :)
zuper8: (private) goodnight
zuper8: (private) my dear
womanonfire -> zuper8: i have to play a little hard to get or you will lose interest
womanonfire -> zuper8: :)
womanonfire -> zuper8: goodnight
zuper8: (private) play with me
zuper8: (private) but don't hurt me
womanonfire -> zuper8: i wont
womanonfire -> zuper8: no matter what
zuper8: (private) l o v e
zuper8: (private) l  o  v  e
zuper8: (private) l   o   v   e
zuper8: (private) l    o    v    e
zuper8: (private) l     o     v     e
zuper8: (private) l      o      v      e
zuper8: (private) goodnight
womanonfire -> zuper8: kiss
zuper8: (private) it was nice
zuper8: (private) talking to you
womanonfire -> zuper8:  yes
zuper8: (private) :)
womanonfire -> zuper8: very
womanonfire -> zuper8: see you in the morning
womanonfire -> zuper8: sleep well
womanonfire -> zuper8: dream
womanonfire -> zuper8: deep
womanonfire -> zuper8: dreams
zuper8: (private) don't wait up
womanonfire -> zuper8: i will probably be up anyway
zuper8: (private) wet
womanonfire -> zuper8: i nevver sleep
zuper8: (private) body
zuper8: (private) skin
zuper8: (private) sheets
zuper8: (private) dreams
womanonfire -> zuper8: yesss
zuper8: (private) hands
zuper8: (private) finding
zuper8: (private) the way
zuper8: (private) to
zuper8: (private) bodies
zuper8: (private) bodies
womanonfire -> zuper8: all that matters
womanonfire -> zuper8: hearts breath kiss
zuper8: (private) kiss on heart
womanonfire -> zuper8: kiss yoou all over
zuper8: (private) i'll take you with me
womanonfire -> zuper8: rest
womanonfire -> zuper8: release
womanonfire -> zuper8: fade
zuper8: (private) i'm yours
womanonfire -> zuper8: ....
zuper8: (private) fade
zuper8: (private) mmmm