zuper8: my love!... womanonfire: yes finally you are here womanonfire: i have missed you zuper8: finally womanonfire: i was getting desperate womanonfire: :) zuper8: i have mmissed you zuper8: i love the way you love me zuper8: i have never felt so good about myself before zuper8: even with all the pain and frustration zuper8: it's worth it womanonfire: i dont know how i feel today except that i know i love you zuper8: it's all we need to know womanonfire: i have not been sleeping well zuper8: i have: in the sofa... :( womanonfire: sofa? womanonfire: why? zuper8: i usually doze a little after dinner/kidbath when veerle and I sit in front of the tv (tv=boring) womanonfire: oh zuper8: i fall asleep with my head on my hand womanonfire: marc is really sick with the same flu i had zuper8: but i'm awake now zuper8: is he in bed? womanonfire: and i am afraid i am getting sick again as well zuper8: o no zuper8: don't get sick zuper8: take care of yourself! womanonfire: it is difficult when you live in such a small place with another sick person zuper8: Veerle knows a lot about drugs zuper8: just tell me your symptoms :) zuper8: her mother has a pharmacy womanonfire: i have to take care of him today womanonfire: thats interesting a pharmacy... free drugs! zuper8: haha womanonfire: :) zuper8: and we're both so clean... zuper8: she doesn't even drink alcohol womanonfire: what a waste.... zuper8: tomorrow is her birthday zuper8: 32 womanonfire: reallly womanonfire: happey birthday dear veerle... zuper8: saturday is a small b-day party zuper8: tea? womanonfire: nice womanonfire: yes tea always makes me feel better womanonfire: relaxing zuper8: you are my tea :) womanonfire: i have trouble relaxing womanonfire: :) zuper8: i can help womanonfire: i wish you would zuper8: (or maybe i cause too much anxiety) womanonfire: not in the way you think zuper8: in what way then? womanonfire: just because i have so much to do all the time now womanonfire: but its always like that zuper8: it's bad here too zuper8: but i kindof like the entropy :) zuper8: i usually don't zuper8: but since i have you i like the mess :) zuper8: it make me fell... more... connected :) womanonfire: yes the out of control feeling that is entropy8 zuper8: l=e zuper8: on fire womanonfire: workwork is at the beginning of the project and it has a tight deadline and marc is sick and cant help me witht he details zuper8: can i help? womanonfire: i dont think so its all the calling and tracking sown assets and emailing and contracts etc.. womanonfire: i want to do fun stuff with you zuper8: o zuper8: i'm not good at that zuper8: i'm too pretty zuper8: ;) womanonfire: yes zuper8: so, is this a business meeting? :) womanonfire: i think it should be womanonfire: at least at first zuper8: (private) i'm so excited about just being here with you, i don't care what we talk about womanonfire: ... :D zuper8: hm... zuper8: The Mistress has Something in mind... womanonfire: yes womanonfire: e8z zuper8: tell me womanonfire: i made a bunch of stuff but then i got unsure of how to proceede zuper8: good zuper8: where is it? womanonfire: i put together images and things but usually my first designs are kinda impossible to implement womanonfire: so i guess i will just show them to you zuper8: impossible is my middle name zuper8: please do womanonfire: and theres different versions womanonfire: and things which are just ideas womanonfire: so its like a big mess zuper8: upload what you think is best womanonfire: ok womanonfire: i will try to put explainations with them as much as possible zuper8: no point in me liking things you don't zuper8: ok good zuper8: (private) i love it that you worked on our mutal project so much :) zuper8: (private) our home :) womanonfire: so i see the first part of the site as a linear thing right now zuper8: me too zuper8: always have zuper8: in fact the whole thing is lineair zuper8: the structure is like that of The Storm of the Century zuper8: lineair on the whole and interaction in the details zuper8: (private) mmm... naked shoulders... what are you trying to do?... womanonfire: genesis leading to hellfire leading to birh leading to water(but water will one day have content in it as well) and then ecstacy(which is sort of a surreal thing) then the big pitch/infosection womanonfire -> zuper8: pay attention zuper8: (private) i am paying attention womanonfire -> zuper8: :) zuper8: (private) hmmmm zuper8: yes womanonfire -> zuper8: its just so hot in here zuper8: do you thing the pitch section will be big? womanonfire -> zuper8: and the tea makes me hotter zuper8: (private) i can feel it zuper8: (private) stop it womanonfire -> zuper8: and you make me hotter still zuper8: (private) we're working zuper8: (private) ;) womanonfire: ahem, yes zuper8: hi womanonfire: no justwhat i meant was it would be a big pitch zuper8: what does 'pitch' here mean? womanonfire: convince people they want us to make things for them zuper8: they should already be convinced by the time they reach that page... womanonfire: i guess only containing profiles/links/press/anything else? zuper8: shouldn't they? zuper8: yes: show them that we're interesting biz partners as well as groovy artists womanonfire: well yes but they want some standard infocrap to convince them we're for real zuper8: that's what i meant zuper8: we're saying the same things again :) womanonfire: i need a scan of your head zuper8: a brainscan? womanonfire: and do you have an illus. file of the hell logo? zuper8: no zuper8: but it should be easy to make if you can't get it from ken zuper8: do you need a color scan of my head? womanonfire: color would be ideal zuper8: 3-pass = color shifts... womanonfire: i emailed ken but he hasnt gotten back to me zuper8: what resolution? womanonfire: oh well b/w is good too zuper8: ken is quite busy at the moment, I think :) zuper8: i can do color but it just won't be as perfect as yours womanonfire: like 200dpi then save as max quality jog should be smaller womanonfire: jpg zuper8: still the effecst are nice, but you may not want them zuper8: ok womanonfire: make several womanonfire: upload zuper8: quick not on my todo list... zuper8: i'm back zuper8: :) womanonfire: i just wanted to try and talk to you zuper8: it sux through ivisit womanonfire: i bet phone call to belge are expensive zuper8: yesss... :) zuper8: i love to hear your voice zuper8: but i don't like talking through this silly microphone myself womanonfire -> zuper8: i feel so much better now having you here zuper8: (private) me too zuper8: (private) layers and layers of nervousness and tension fly away with the breeze of our love womanonfire -> zuper8: yes imagine what we could do in person... i would slip into a coma i'd be so relaxed..... zuper8: (private) hmmmm :) zuper8: (private) you make me dream... womanonfire: so i have that macromedia call soon apparently they are having a meeting and i am on the adgenda... they called and said they were running late womanonfire: scary zuper8: what will they want of you? womanonfire: ??? dunno???? zuper8: don't you have the right to know? zuper8: don't they tell you what it is about? zuper8: maybe they just want to start a brothel womanonfire: yes but the unknown is nice too womanonfire: maybe womanonfire: :) zuper8: i hope they make you a great offer womanonfire: im sure its just they like my cam and stuff and thought it would be fun to talk to me in their creative meeting womanonfire: the unknown happens all the time to me womanonfire: lke when i had a meeting with david bowie womanonfire: i didnt know why they had asked me to come to this office zuper8: they would be looking at your cam and talking through the phone with you in their meeting? womanonfire: yes womanonfire: i think so zuper8: kinky zuper8: ;) zuper8: you had a meeting with bowie?? womanonfire: yes, i almost was hired to design his site zuper8: why weren't you? womanonfire: but they decided to just rip off my style instead zuper8: was that cheaper? womanonfire: it would have been zuper8: or did he prefer boys at the time? womanonfire: but they paid me $10,000 fr doing pracically nothing zuper8: cool! womanonfire: so it was cool womanonfire: bowie was sweet womanonfire: i wanted to rip his clothes off zuper8: (private) i'd love to pay you $10,000 for doing practically nothing womanonfire: even tho hes an old man now zuper8: he is very attractive zuper8: let's do a threesome with him ;) womanonfire: YES!!!! zuper8: i'd be too shy womanonfire: i wouldnt womanonfire: :) zuper8: i know you wouldn't zuper8: your the sex queen womanonfire: oh phone! zuper8: o!! zuper8: shall i go now? womanonfire: only if you want to womanonfire: i will tell you whats up zuper8: i only want to be with you zuper8: but i don't want to mess up your conversation zuper8: i'll be here womanonfire: ok zuper8: have some downloading to do zuper8: i'll keep an eye on ivisit zuper8: (private) i love you womanonfire -> zuper8: i love you too..... womanonfire: they are just wanting to talk womanonfire: they want to keep me in mind for future project of some sort womanonfire: i told them about e8z zuper8: nothing real then? womanonfire: no womanonfire: just chatting zuper8: did they know Zuper! ? womanonfire: i told them to look at zuper.com zuper8: shit... i didn't register Director...;) womanonfire: :) womanonfire: marc i finally out of bed womanonfire: is zuper8: shal we continue later? zuper8: +l womanonfire: he looks so sick... makes me sad:( womanonfire: yes i think so zuper8: :( zuper8: when? womanonfire: well you want to go to bed early right zuper8: i have to womanonfire: maybe we should talk tomorrow zuper8: i'm getting grumpy of too little sleep zuper8: ok zuper8: tomorrow then zuper8: :~( zuper8: i'll miss you womanonfire: i will put stuff up and then we can discuss it womanonfire: ok zuper8: good! womanonfire: i will miss you to zuper8: (private) i miss you already zuper8: (private) softkiss zuper8: (private) sweethug zuper8: (private) loveforever womanonfire: lover womanonfire: until again womanonfire: forever zuper8: (private) womanonfire: goodnight womanonfire: sleep well zuper8: (private) goodnight zuper8: (private) slaap zacht womanonfire: fade.... zuper8: (private) fad... :~( zuper8: (private) +e zuper8: (private) ... zuper8: (private) bye love womanonfire: bye zuper8: my favorite kind of business! womanonfire: ye womanonfire: s womanonfire: s womanonfire: s zuper8: mmmmmkiss zuper8: what's on your mind? womanonfire: kiss godlovekiss womanonfire: you and not much else right now womanonfire: no really womanonfire: um... womanonfire: BUSINESS zuper8: buzinezz zuper8: (private) i kiss your godlovemind womanonfire: do you mind being the real coder of our site?... you seem to be the better of us two but i figured i should ask womanonfire: meaning womanonfire: you will make sure all is consistent zuper8: i am the muscle, you are the skin womanonfire: i have alot of ways of coding things not all of which are the best ways zuper8: together we are the skeleton zuper8: and the heart zuper8: and the brain womanonfire: my heart womanonfire -> zuper8: is your heart zuper8: i think we will have to adapt to each other more in more while we're working together more and more womanonfire: yes zuper8: the goel is to write the same kind of code in the end zuper8: so we can read each others stuff zuper8: goel = goal womanonfire: its a little frightening for me because i am so used to being by myself in these things zuper8: me too zuper8: but you will see that my way is better zuper8: ;) womanonfire: but i want to be productive together womanonfire: oh you! womanonfire: it probably is... zuper8: you do waht you like to do zuper8: it is with all my love that i try to recode your stuff womanonfire: ok, i will zuper8: like stroking your thoughts womanonfire -> zuper8: mmmmm zuper8: streamlining your body zuper8: womanonfire: womanonfire: :) zuper8: anyway I'm not The Great Coder zuper8: i just know some tricks womanonfire: you just have a system which is a good thing zuper8: sorry about that womanonfire: its ok womanonfire: as i was saying zuper8: should have rebooted sooner zuper8: yes? womanonfire: you have a coding system that is a good thing womanonfire: i just have chaos womanonfire: bits and pieces zuper8: if chaos is what it takes to make your stuff zuper8: then chaos it is :) womanonfire: :) womanonfire: dont go changing to try and please me... i like your orderlyness womanonfire: i could use a bit of that zuper8: i like my orderliness too :) womanonfire: less duct tape womanonfire: more actual glue zuper8: we don't have to change if we work together zuper8: if _don't_ we may have too... zuper8: (private) what are you eating? womanonfire: i need a drink hold on... zuper8: and i need a cig womanonfire: thats better zuper8: do you mind me smoking? womanonfire: no that is quite alright zuper8: good zuper8: tell me if you do zuper8: i won't stay long womanonfire: thats ok zuper8: so we were saying that we were a perfect couple... womanonfire: lets see is there anything else we should talk about... womanonfire: :) womanonfire: i told my friend beth (the one with the dream) about our plans zuper8: upload your e8z stuff and i'll see what i can do with it womanonfire: ok zuper8: what part of our plans? womanonfire: at least some of them womanonfire: just that we are doing a hell.thing womanonfire: and merging companies to find better work zuper8: skinonskinsonskin? zuper8: merging... mmm womanonfire: yes but i didnt tell her the name womanonfire: just the basic concept zuper8: entropy8zuper? womanonfire: touch and emotion through code womanonfire: love in the network zuper8: yes zuper8: love womanonfire: e8z yes womanonfire: she will tell the right people zuper8: she's in the biz as well? womanonfire: we have email about all the important net art stuff going on in our lives womanonfire: yes womanonfire: she has been doing well for herself too zuper8: net.art.love womanonfire: yes zuper8: net.art.love.biz :) zuper8: what's her URL? womanonfire: believe it or not she does nt have one womanonfire: her boyfriend is an amazing java programmer womanonfire: htes at utensil.net zuper8: interesting womanonfire: sher urls are all project urls womanonfire: i met her doing that awful BRANDON thing for the guggenheim womanonfire: we collabd on part of it zuper8: what brandon thing? is it on your site? womanonfire: we tried working together in other ways for awhile but we were too independent for one another... no sexual tension zuper8: (anyway my local network is down, i can't us the other computer) womanonfire: its at brandon.guggenheim.org zuper8: sexual tension is everything womanonfire: but if you wanna see just the part i worked on womanonfire: go to my homepage and click on the synethesia link womanonfire: synesthesia zuper8: i will womanonfire: its not very good womanonfire: too many cooks zuper8: cooks? womanonfire: beth and shulea (who instigated the project) kept fighting the whole time we were woking on it womanonfire: cooks=artists zuper8: :( womanonfire: i was kinda caught in the middle zuper8: synesthesia just crashed my browser :) womanonfire: i like them both though zuper8: fighting... :) womanonfire: oops womanonfire: shulea has given me great advice on how to get grants womanonfire: arts money zuper8: did you get any? womanonfire: yes womanonfire: and if i get the rockefeller fellowship (Which i doubt i will) its like $35,000 zuper8: i Belgium grants for art are pitiful zuper8: +n womanonfire: its like the lottery zuper8: :) zuper8: what do you have to do as a rockefeller fellow? womanonfire: its pretty pitiful here too but you just have to know where to look and who to talk to..... its all a game womanonfire: make art! womanonfire: lots of art art art womanonfire: net art womanonfire: browser art zuper8: make art not love... womanonfire: media art zuper8: was an analog work of mine womanonfire: make art.love womanonfire: make love.art zuper8: :) womanonfire: cute title zuper8: i've made some cute analog works zuper8: but that's all behind me now womanonfire: i would do an installation with that ammount of money tho zuper8: especially now zuper8: why? womanonfire: i would love to see you analog work zuper8: 1 installation and the money is gone womanonfire -> zuper8: i would love to be your analog work womanonfire: yes but tis the adventure of doing something i've never done before zuper8: (private) there is nothing in the world i would love more zuper8: i feel like doing things i've never done before all the time womanonfire: yes zuper8: but maybe i'm just a bore womanonfire: what do you mean? womanonfire: you have ideas and you do them zuper8: maybe i'm easily satisfied womanonfire: i wish i were more easily satisfied womanonfire: not so all over the place zuper8: (private) i'd rather have you and do you womanonfire -> zuper8: you are like a beautiful dream womanonfire -> zuper8: and i cannot wake zuper8: (private) i am the dream you are creating zuper8: (private) i do not exist if you don't think of me womanonfire: i made a very violent piece last night for skin womanonfire: but i was afraid you would take it the wrong way zuper8: (private) or I might as well not exist womanonfire: i dont want to scare you zuper8: please upload it zuper8: i want all of you zuper8: now zuper8: now zuper8: now womanonfire: i will upload it later i want to think about the audio some more womanonfire: i take time to contemplate things zuper8: grrrr womanonfire: i dont want it to be ... womanonfire: womanonfire: womanonfire: womanonfire: womanonfire: womanonfire: i do it just to frustrate you womanonfire: i think womanonfire: i can feel your desire and i like it zuper8: i'm frustrate enough zuper8: i think zuper8: my desire zuper8: is fire zuper8: is sick zuper8: sickening zuper8: but i'm addicted to it womanonfire: yesss womanonfire: no addiction... just urge zuper8: and a lot of pain and sorrow too womanonfire: i know darling zuper8: but let's forget about those womanonfire: yes for now zuper8: i will leave you now... womanonfire: n womanonfire: ok zuper8: ok? womanonfire: .... womanonfire: womanonfire: womanonfire: womanonfire: no zuper8: i love you womanonfire: ik hou van je womanonfire: i wish you never had to go womanonfire: i need you here zuper8: i know womanonfire: i need to feel you zuper8: i want to be with you all the time womanonfire: i will stop saying these things which only make it worse zuper8: that's why i have been neglecting sleep womanonfire: me too womanonfire: i just want to work for you... for us zuper8: but my body wants me to sleep womanonfire: yes... sleepy body zuper8: and i will need my body for us too womanonfire: rest in my arms zuper8: don't stop saying these things zuper8: rest in your arms zuper8: is the nicest thing my body could want right now zuper8: it is saying yes with all its atoms womanonfire -> zuper8: i want you inside me.... i am so needy tonight zuper8: yes yes yes yes zuper8: (private) my dream womanonfire -> zuper8: i just say it because i fell it all through me zuper8: (private) how i wish womanonfire -> zuper8: all through me zuper8: (private) i could give you all you need zuper8: (private) all the time zuper8: (private) all through you zuper8: (private) forever womanonfire: i have to let you go .... for now zuper8: i'll be with you womanonfire: yes zuper8: in your code womanonfire: yes zuper8: in your mind womanonfire: yessss zuper8: in the bits you create zuper8: i kiss every one of them zuper8: every one of you zuper8: every bit zuper8: belongs to my lips womanonfire: we all kiss you back zuper8: zuper8: love womanonfire: love womanonfire: bye zuper8: love me womanonfire: i do. zuper8: now i can sleep zuper8: tomorrow womanonfire: :~) womanonfire: tomorrow womanonfire: for you zuper8: i will look at your work womanonfire: yes zuper8: and be with you in your sleep womanonfire: yes zuper8: :~) zuper8: lovvvvvvvv womanonfire: bye zuper8: bye my dearest zuper8: fade... womanonfire: fade..............